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beez said:
On January 6th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
The Catholic Church was formed long after Jesus died.
loryntoo said:
On January 9th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
Jesus told Peter that he was the rock his church was built on.
There was no mention of Catholic anywhere. When the Catholic church was created, they named the Pope’s chair the Throne of St. Peter.
You should know that Peter did not lead the early Christian church. He wasn’t strong enough. It was Paul who blazed the trail and THEN Peter followed.
Marie said:
On January 11th, 2008 at 2:47 am
His disiple Peter
“gospels describe Jesus as calling Peter his “rock” upon which the future church would be built. After his martyrdom in Rome, traditions developed which led to the belief that the most important Christian church organization was located in Rome. This is why popes today are regarded as the successors of Peter, first leader of the Roman church.”
Hope that helps!
Jane Marie
Aion Ang said:
On January 13th, 2008 at 3:03 am
i thought it was his brother…
astrobuf said:
On January 14th, 2008 at 10:21 am
The Apostle Peter was dsignated by Jesus as the leader of the Catholic Church. Jesus said, upon this rock I will build my church as he was speakingof Peter. The word Peter means rock. Roman Catholic’s believe Peter was the first Pope.
Astrobuf
Tyrel Mora said:
On January 15th, 2008 at 2:56 am
For Roman Catholics, it is Peter. There’s a passage in the Bible which tell that Jesus said to Peter that it is upon this rock that the church was built. (Don’t know the passage, sorry). RC claimed that this rock is Peter. Hence they said that Peter is the first Pope. The first head of the Church after Jesus died. However, most historians agree that there is no definite “first leader” of the church since early Christian congregations are independent from each other. Eventually, the Clergy and Laity distinctions arose and some Clergymen were able to put their fame more than the fame of others. In the end, it is the head clergy of Rome, or the bishop of Rome which outlasted all other clergymen. He then became the first Pope as accepted by historians.
(I’ve read it a long time ago. Sorry, I can’t remember the names and dates. Just do some research on your own.)
*note: Laity = non-Clergy = ordinary followers
ej_bronte said:
On January 16th, 2008 at 3:12 am
There was no leader of the Catholic Church per se because there was no Catholic Church. However, the word catholic is Latin for universal. So in a way the first semblance of a church was Catholic in a way.
Peter was named by Jesus as the first leader, however Paul took over after his conversion. Paul actively sought, much to the chagrin of Peter and the apostles, to convert gentiles (non-Jews) So in a way Paul is the first leader, because he took to making the church bigger through gentile conversion.
Now, if you want to look at the first person to make the Church an institution, then you should look at the emperor Constantine who “converted” to Christianity and started formal regulations of the Church.
sparks9653 said:
On January 19th, 2008 at 6:23 am
jesus was long dead but the first pope was Pope Sylvester (314-335
bruhaha said:
On January 22nd, 2008 at 11:01 am
I write as a Protestant, though I believe some other Protestants who have answered this question have over-reacted and given Peter short shrift.
The answer I’m sure you are looking for is the apostle Peter, a key member of Jesus’ “inner circle” (Peter, James and John) who alone accompanied him to the Mount of Transfiguration and the Garden of Gethsemane.
Peter was indeed an important leader of the early church — in Acts he initially takes the lead in declaring the gospel and acting as ‘chief spokesperson’ for the apostles, at Pentecost, in Samaria, and in the official beginning of the Gentiles mission (through his visit to Cornelius’s house). Thereafter he appears, along with James (not the son of Zebedee, who was an early martyr, but Jesus’ brother [some say half-brother]) as the foremost leaders in the Jerusalem church.
And though Acts shows that Paul ends up being given a central role as “apostle to the Gentiles”, it was not a matter of his taking a role away from Peter (the NT never says that).
BUT you should know that the Protestant position, while able to appreciate the very important “kick-off” role given to Peter (though again, some overreact to Catholic teaching about the papacy that they disagree with), does not believe that his APOSTOLIC role — assisting in laying the foundational witness to the risen Christ– was “transferable” to a successor. In other words, Peter was a very important leader of the early church, arguably THE most important at the start –and that by Jesus’ direction. But that all by itself does not establish the institution of the papacy, nor the full hierarchical structure that later characterized the Catholic church.
Super Good Friend said:
On January 22nd, 2008 at 11:55 pm
It’s Peter. He turned over the church to Peter. He called him PETER THE ROCK”. He’s the foundation of church.
On January 6th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
The Catholic Church was formed long after Jesus died.
On January 9th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
Jesus told Peter that he was the rock his church was built on.
There was no mention of Catholic anywhere. When the Catholic church was created, they named the Pope’s chair the Throne of St. Peter.
You should know that Peter did not lead the early Christian church. He wasn’t strong enough. It was Paul who blazed the trail and THEN Peter followed.
On January 11th, 2008 at 2:47 am
His disiple Peter
“gospels describe Jesus as calling Peter his “rock” upon which the future church would be built. After his martyrdom in Rome, traditions developed which led to the belief that the most important Christian church organization was located in Rome. This is why popes today are regarded as the successors of Peter, first leader of the Roman church.”
Hope that helps!
Jane Marie
On January 13th, 2008 at 3:03 am
i thought it was his brother…
On January 14th, 2008 at 10:21 am
The Apostle Peter was dsignated by Jesus as the leader of the Catholic Church. Jesus said, upon this rock I will build my church as he was speakingof Peter. The word Peter means rock. Roman Catholic’s believe Peter was the first Pope.
Astrobuf
On January 15th, 2008 at 2:56 am
For Roman Catholics, it is Peter. There’s a passage in the Bible which tell that Jesus said to Peter that it is upon this rock that the church was built. (Don’t know the passage, sorry). RC claimed that this rock is Peter. Hence they said that Peter is the first Pope. The first head of the Church after Jesus died. However, most historians agree that there is no definite “first leader” of the church since early Christian congregations are independent from each other. Eventually, the Clergy and Laity distinctions arose and some Clergymen were able to put their fame more than the fame of others. In the end, it is the head clergy of Rome, or the bishop of Rome which outlasted all other clergymen. He then became the first Pope as accepted by historians.
(I’ve read it a long time ago. Sorry, I can’t remember the names and dates. Just do some research on your own.)
*note: Laity = non-Clergy = ordinary followers
On January 16th, 2008 at 3:12 am
There was no leader of the Catholic Church per se because there was no Catholic Church. However, the word catholic is Latin for universal. So in a way the first semblance of a church was Catholic in a way.
Peter was named by Jesus as the first leader, however Paul took over after his conversion. Paul actively sought, much to the chagrin of Peter and the apostles, to convert gentiles (non-Jews) So in a way Paul is the first leader, because he took to making the church bigger through gentile conversion.
Now, if you want to look at the first person to make the Church an institution, then you should look at the emperor Constantine who “converted” to Christianity and started formal regulations of the Church.
On January 19th, 2008 at 6:23 am
jesus was long dead but the first pope was Pope Sylvester (314-335
On January 22nd, 2008 at 11:01 am
I write as a Protestant, though I believe some other Protestants who have answered this question have over-reacted and given Peter short shrift.
The answer I’m sure you are looking for is the apostle Peter, a key member of Jesus’ “inner circle” (Peter, James and John) who alone accompanied him to the Mount of Transfiguration and the Garden of Gethsemane.
Peter was indeed an important leader of the early church — in Acts he initially takes the lead in declaring the gospel and acting as ‘chief spokesperson’ for the apostles, at Pentecost, in Samaria, and in the official beginning of the Gentiles mission (through his visit to Cornelius’s house). Thereafter he appears, along with James (not the son of Zebedee, who was an early martyr, but Jesus’ brother [some say half-brother]) as the foremost leaders in the Jerusalem church.
And though Acts shows that Paul ends up being given a central role as “apostle to the Gentiles”, it was not a matter of his taking a role away from Peter (the NT never says that).
BUT you should know that the Protestant position, while able to appreciate the very important “kick-off” role given to Peter (though again, some overreact to Catholic teaching about the papacy that they disagree with), does not believe that his APOSTOLIC role — assisting in laying the foundational witness to the risen Christ– was “transferable” to a successor. In other words, Peter was a very important leader of the early church, arguably THE most important at the start –and that by Jesus’ direction. But that all by itself does not establish the institution of the papacy, nor the full hierarchical structure that later characterized the Catholic church.
On January 22nd, 2008 at 11:55 pm
It’s Peter. He turned over the church to Peter. He called him PETER THE ROCK”. He’s the foundation of church.