Comments on: References for the idea that Jesus came from Eastern religion/mythology? http://jesuschristvideos.com/blog/index.php/religion-spirituality/references-for-the-idea-that-jesus-came-from-eastern-religionmythology/ Jesus Christ Religion Blog Sun, 20 Dec 2009 18:47:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: baseballkrba_10 http://jesuschristvideos.com/blog/index.php/religion-spirituality/references-for-the-idea-that-jesus-came-from-eastern-religionmythology/comment-page-1/#comment-2019 baseballkrba_10 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:36:01 +0000 http://jesuschristvideos.com/blog/index.php/religion-spirituality/references-for-the-idea-that-jesus-came-from-eastern-religionmythology/#comment-2019 Although those arguments have some validity, they have major problems as well. For instance, people see that the cult of Isis has a cleansing with water that they insist is the root of Baptism. However, cleansing with water is a very common human archetype. We wash our bodies of filth, its not a very far leap to wash the "soul" of filth. So when reading these cross religion comparisons, it is important to understand the biases of the source. As for Jesus, a good comparison can be made between a Greco-Roman Pagan holy man and Christ. Read about Alexander of Abonutichus and Apollonius of Tyana, you can find primary documents on the internet. These two men have countless similarities to Jesus Christ, and these are Greco-Roman pagans. So people suggest that this is one of the origins of Christianity. However, the similarities may just show a change in the role of the holy man in ancient society, that Jesus fallowed. Jesus was Jewish, so the similarities may have been early Christian attempts to Romanize Jesus, by making him fair skinned, and wear linen clothes, niether of which are mentioned in the text of the Bible, but its a common attribute of Christ. My point is, that people tend to see similarites in religions and make more out of it than they should. Although some similarities my be from a cross culture exchange of ideas, it could also just be a fairly basic idea that is easily reasoned to, such as baptism. Or it may be a practicle religious tenant, such as not eating shell fish. Jews and several other religions not relating to Jeudism fallow this because eating shellfish can kill people. Thus both religions came to this conclusion independantly. Although those arguments have some validity, they have major problems as well. For instance, people see that the cult of Isis has a cleansing with water that they insist is the root of Baptism. However, cleansing with water is a very common human archetype. We wash our bodies of filth, its not a very far leap to wash the “soul” of filth. So when reading these cross religion comparisons, it is important to understand the biases of the source.

As for Jesus, a good comparison can be made between a Greco-Roman Pagan holy man and Christ. Read about Alexander of Abonutichus and Apollonius of Tyana, you can find primary documents on the internet. These two men have countless similarities to Jesus Christ, and these are Greco-Roman pagans.

So people suggest that this is one of the origins of Christianity. However, the similarities may just show a change in the role of the holy man in ancient society, that Jesus fallowed. Jesus was Jewish, so the similarities may have been early Christian attempts to Romanize Jesus, by making him fair skinned, and wear linen clothes, niether of which are mentioned in the text of the Bible, but its a common attribute of Christ.

My point is, that people tend to see similarites in religions and make more out of it than they should. Although some similarities my be from a cross culture exchange of ideas, it could also just be a fairly basic idea that is easily reasoned to, such as baptism. Or it may be a practicle religious tenant, such as not eating shell fish. Jews and several other religions not relating to Jeudism fallow this because eating shellfish can kill people. Thus both religions came to this conclusion independantly.

]]> By: Andrew K http://jesuschristvideos.com/blog/index.php/religion-spirituality/references-for-the-idea-that-jesus-came-from-eastern-religionmythology/comment-page-1/#comment-2018 Andrew K Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:33:36 +0000 http://jesuschristvideos.com/blog/index.php/religion-spirituality/references-for-the-idea-that-jesus-came-from-eastern-religionmythology/#comment-2018 The philosophy of Jesus was the contemporary philosophy of Judea at the time. It was already heavily present in Greek philosophy, Mithraism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and Zoroastrianism. Mithra, Krishna, Hercules, Perseus all share literary and philosophical traditions with what's presented in the Bible. The philosophy of Jesus was the contemporary philosophy of Judea at the time. It was already heavily present in Greek philosophy, Mithraism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and Zoroastrianism.
Mithra, Krishna, Hercules, Perseus all share literary and philosophical traditions with what’s presented in the Bible.

]]> By: Lakely http://jesuschristvideos.com/blog/index.php/religion-spirituality/references-for-the-idea-that-jesus-came-from-eastern-religionmythology/comment-page-1/#comment-2017 Lakely Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:00:35 +0000 http://jesuschristvideos.com/blog/index.php/religion-spirituality/references-for-the-idea-that-jesus-came-from-eastern-religionmythology/#comment-2017 "Autobiography of a Yogi" "Aquarian Gospel" "Gospel Enigma" is the latest and most comprehensive. All three are free, online and complete. “Autobiography of a Yogi”

“Aquarian Gospel”

“Gospel Enigma” is the latest and most comprehensive.

All three are free, online and complete.

]]> By: Leslie D http://jesuschristvideos.com/blog/index.php/religion-spirituality/references-for-the-idea-that-jesus-came-from-eastern-religionmythology/comment-page-1/#comment-2016 Leslie D Thu, 01 Jan 2009 20:52:53 +0000 http://jesuschristvideos.com/blog/index.php/religion-spirituality/references-for-the-idea-that-jesus-came-from-eastern-religionmythology/#comment-2016 There are numerous cults which Christianity is supposed to have stolen ideas from. Horus is one of the favourites. However, you can read an outline of the Horus myth yourself, and make up your own mind. It's not quite what you would find on an atheist website: There are numerous cults which Christianity is supposed to have stolen ideas from. Horus is one of the favourites. However, you can read an outline of the Horus myth yourself, and make up your own mind. It’s not quite what you would find on an atheist website:

]]> By: Johnny http://jesuschristvideos.com/blog/index.php/religion-spirituality/references-for-the-idea-that-jesus-came-from-eastern-religionmythology/comment-page-1/#comment-2015 Johnny Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:50:49 +0000 http://jesuschristvideos.com/blog/index.php/religion-spirituality/references-for-the-idea-that-jesus-came-from-eastern-religionmythology/#comment-2015 Supposedly it was a conglomeration of Mesopotamian, Hindi, Egyptian, Greek/Roman, Norse, and even some native american. Which begs the question of which came first the chicken or the egg. Supposedly it was a conglomeration of Mesopotamian, Hindi, Egyptian, Greek/Roman, Norse, and even some native american. Which begs the question of which came first the chicken or the egg.

]]> By: Joe Bloe http://jesuschristvideos.com/blog/index.php/religion-spirituality/references-for-the-idea-that-jesus-came-from-eastern-religionmythology/comment-page-1/#comment-2014 Joe Bloe Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:58:45 +0000 http://jesuschristvideos.com/blog/index.php/religion-spirituality/references-for-the-idea-that-jesus-came-from-eastern-religionmythology/#comment-2014 The early Christians made it clear that their religion was stolen from the pagans. I'll give you some quotes in a minute... Justin Martyr Having heard it proclaimed throught the prophets that the Christ was to come and that the ungodly among men were to be punished by fire, the wicked spirits put forward many to be called Sons of God, under the impression that they would be able to produce in men the idea that the things that were said with regard to Christ were merely marvellous tales like the things that were said by poets. Firmicus Maternur The resurrection of Dionysus is an attempt by the devil to riducule the true faith. Tertullian The devil whose business is to ******* the truth mimics the exact circumstances of the Divine Sacraments. He baptises his believers and promises forgiveness of sins and thereby initiates them into the religion of Mithra. Thus he celebrates the oblation of bread and brings in the symbol of the resurrection. Let us therefore acknowledge the craftiness of the devil, who copies certain things of those that be Divine. These excuses come under the heading of Diabolical Mimicry or Plagiarism in Anticipation and they were written by the Fathers of the Christian religion --- Do you dare to call them liars? The early Christians made it clear that their religion was stolen from the pagans. I’ll give you some quotes in a minute…

Justin Martyr
Having heard it proclaimed throught the prophets that the Christ was to come and that the ungodly among men were to be punished by fire, the wicked spirits put forward many to be called Sons of God, under the impression that they would be able to produce in men the idea that the things that were said with regard to Christ were merely marvellous tales like the things that were said by poets.

Firmicus Maternur
The resurrection of Dionysus is an attempt by the devil to riducule the true faith.

Tertullian
The devil whose business is to ******* the truth mimics the exact circumstances of the Divine Sacraments. He baptises his believers and promises forgiveness of sins and thereby initiates them into the religion of Mithra. Thus he celebrates the oblation of bread and brings in the symbol of the resurrection. Let us therefore acknowledge the craftiness of the devil, who copies certain things of those that be Divine.

These excuses come under the heading of Diabolical Mimicry or Plagiarism in Anticipation and they were written by the Fathers of the Christian religion — Do you dare to call them liars?

]]> By: galactic_bodhisattva - SGI http://jesuschristvideos.com/blog/index.php/religion-spirituality/references-for-the-idea-that-jesus-came-from-eastern-religionmythology/comment-page-1/#comment-2013 galactic_bodhisattva - SGI Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:16:14 +0000 http://jesuschristvideos.com/blog/index.php/religion-spirituality/references-for-the-idea-that-jesus-came-from-eastern-religionmythology/#comment-2013 Research the Persian god Mithra. An old idea stolen and recycled. Research the Persian god Mithra. An old idea stolen and recycled.

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